Well hell what's not to concede? That humans are pithy objects compared to the might of the slighted Macintosh? That Steve Jobs and his creation comes first to the rights and feelings of others, and their family's that have lost more than a consumer product? That the rest of us might either have a shred of dignity or at least a soul? Hard to argue with that. Very hard indeed.
]]>No, it is not. Again, that trademark rebuttle dismissing everything the other person just said - you go Dave! Please think a bit about what I'm saying. (I know a lot about the holocaust, and actually have an article on it going up soon). Not enough to know you're sounding like one sick fucking bastard - but that's ok - you're the self-proclaimed expert Dave.There was an antisemetic attitude in and before WWWII that existed in America, Canada, and Europe that allowed for the Holocaust to happen. It was all about eliminating that which is different, "inferior". Jews were just stereotyped by misinformation, considered inferior, then tried to be eliminated. Macs have the same exact platform problems. It isn't about facts, but misinformation.Again - wow - I thought it was about murder, bodies, gas chambers and the lack of the ability of the people to do anything about it - compared to people choosing to use a Mac, at home or at the job that uses them. It is about setting the stage for the final platform solution. Death of a choice is not the same as death of an individual No shit - then why are you comparing the two?-- but the bigotry and philosophy of the attackers can be amazingly similar. You should hear the similarities in rationalizations and even words. It is the exact same human motivations that lead one to eliminate that which is different. So philisophically I meant exactly what I said... That's what scares the hell out of me. and I hope you read enough about the Holocaust and human psychology to understand exactly what I mean. I honestly hope to my grave that I never adopt such a callous attitude to the people around me. I truely do.
> maybe compare two rival football teams and you might have a good
> analogy--but NOT were LIVES are lost and other atrocoties. I refuse to allow
> it.
And I ignore you refusal. No sense giving up now eh Dave? You've either dug a hole that you can't see the bottom of, or you're a sick man - a very sick man. Football teams are not out there trying to eliminate the other football team from existence. I've talked to many PC advocates and IS personell that are about ELIMINATING the Macs. They not only want to eliminate them out of their company, but they want to eliminate them completely. Only in your world Dave, only in your world. "Why won't the Mac users let it die already?". That is not a sports team, that is deep seated platform racism that is usually based on ignorance and intollerance -- EXACTLY like the human failings that lead to many attrocities including the holocaust. Gettin' all this? - he's already offended me beyond words - now I'm just watching him ramble. I'm not kidding. I wish he were. I can take a sick joke better than hearing crap FROM a sick joke. I know that trying to eliminate freedom and choice in a platform, is not the same as doing it with people -- but philisophically the motives and methods are all too similar, and it was not a casual unthought about comment.
Well there you have it, a wonderful human being, whose always right - even when it comes to inviting everyone into his level of sick depravity, pompous arguments, and analogies that read like the victims of a car wreck. What a mess.
]]>No, I'm not. Please don't tell me what I'm saying, especially when you do it poorly. Thanks Dave for the personal attack - did you want to talk about why you think people can be compared with plastic, rather than just dismissing such concerns with a "no I'm not"? I'm relating the similarities in philosophy which allow humans/sub-culture to attack that which is different and try to eliminate it. That's funny I thought people were making a choice to use, or avoid Macs - where this comes into parallel with machine guns and mass graves is a tad perplexing
> To rationalize the comparrison of the deaths of millions of
> people to the possible discontinuation and attitudes to obsolete
>hardware and marketing practices is beyond pompous, it's patently
>offensive, and beyond warped.
To fail to think and understand the similarities between similar actions is beneath reason and is tragic. I guess 6 million people being murdered is an inconvenience in his world if this is "tragic" We are discussing the morality of humans that allows the to try to destroy that which is different. It is a fundamental moral flaw in many human beings, and has lead to many tragedies throughout history. The Mac is a very very minor one -- but the underlying poison is still the issue.
> compare all you want, but once you start dredging up nazi's you
>lose too much ground in rational circles to be considered worthy
>of attention
Yes, I realize that many are close minded -- which goes to my point. Oh so being agast at a blithe comparrason of genocide is being closed minded, and using it is "ok" But I won't ignore the truth just because it is unpopular -- hence the existence of my site.
> worse, you become the focus of the worst sort of attention. The
>attention of millions of familes that have endured a real
>holocost, not a "percieved"one.
If they are too shallow to understand what I'm saying then that is their short coming. I think trying to compare consumer products to mass-murder is a shortcomming - but hey! The other PC (Political Correctness) is not only historically inaccurate, it is also a way to try to shut down communications, and drive people away from learning and discussions through the use of intimidation. I will stand up against that as well. Good for you David, spread your damage to the populace and let everyone know how truely warped the Mac user base has become - I'm sure Apple will make a commercial out of the whole thing, "Think Jewish"?
> Same goes for people who equate the plight of racism with plastic - not
> people.
So having my career destroyed because I am different (a Mac user), versus having it destroyed because I am different (a Jew) is not at all alike? No, one is a career choice, the other is murder without a say in the matter. Dave, you're a fine human being.
Quite frankly the whole thing was offensive on so many levels, I was stunned beyond words. It's taken half a week just to even take a look at such a brazzen and pompous mindset that puts people below machines in such a radical and pathetic manner. Of course I wasn't the only one who had their spine chill several degrees below zero...
]]>Why does PC Week, PC World, InfoWorld, and about 1,000 other Magazines, Newspapers, Websites, and so on, spew far more one-sided information than what is on my site? A curious position considering that the iMac has received accolades in many of these pubs and Steve Jobs won an award from one of them - where's my award from Mackido?My site's focus is the Mac and explaining things from a Mac perspective. I don't hide that. The facts are that I use Macs and PCs and think the Mac is better for the reasons I express. But I'm honest about it. 99% of the publications that are anti-Mac try to pretend that they are perfectly unbiased. That is crap. Actually any publication of any kind saying an unkind word about Apple or the Mac, rather than throwing mere sophist puppy suck-up prose into the mix exclusively, has found themselves on the wrong side of DKE - but whose going to argue with logic like this?
> Is there any part of your site that mentions weaknesses of any >part of the Mac?
Yes... in quite a few articles I mention the flaws. I certainly don't consider the Mac flawless -- not by any stretch. Go through some of the UI stuff, and I mention a bit. IE: it's ok when HE mentions a fault with Apple - but not others.
> Is there any technically-slanted site not associated with you
>that shares your views?
Most of my opinions are facts. Many places admit to the facts. So many share my views, even if they don't like my tone.
> Why do you not link to any sites in the articles I've seen?
Don't know which section you are reading or talking about. Otherwise known as "duck and cover". I try to link all the time, and the BBBS crowd is no different. DKE - hey don't get me muddled with facts pal, is beyond this simple gesture.
> Do you agree that someone who has much more technical knowledge
>than his audience is ethically bound to present a balanced view?
Yes and no. DUCK! Depends on how they present themselves. Remember my site is a counter balance to the entire media, and every PC advocate and IS-cretin that is preaching their Wintel propeganda with no balance at all. Here we go - dellusion circuts on, warped mindset armed - 3....2....1... This is whining about those nasty little Jews trying to defend themselves in the face of WWII anti-semitism. I would never advocate a policy of excluding PCs. PC magazines will fill themselves with misinformation and support or rationalize that policy. They are not afraid to spread ignorance or falsehoods to achieve that ends (or exclude relevant facts they don't like). But still I am definitely Pro-Mac, and don't hide that. He's hiding from reality, but I'll let him run with it from here But I am pro-Mac because of experience, and explain why. I won't hide from the truth, and admit many of the flaws -- but I balance them, and some hate that. For example: The Macs memory management sucks -- from a programmers point of view. And a user point of view - unless you think daily, or even hourly cold-starts are "just a developer's issue". But the balance is that it isn't THAT bad, and there are many tools that help if you use them. Windows memory management sucks too -- and in some ways is worse (in most not). You really want to get into it, and work on any legacy windows code, and it is worse (model near, far, sorta-over-there, and so on). New stuff isn't that bad -- but you still have tons of uglies in Windows, like DLL's that don't unload and so on. And the truth is that the Macs memory management doesn't look that bad and is being improved. But some don't want to face the truth that THEIR baby is just as ugly -- so they run around pointing fingers, and are the coal calling the dirtblack.Acutally the expression is the pot calling the kettle black, but since this is a chat area - I'm not going to grind his lack metaphoric grasp into the ground.
As you can see, it's really not all that bad, he threw out a sick example to bolster his case on the propoganda wars thing - but it didn't seem like he was actually living or breathing this idea as much as using a bad example to bolster somthing else entirely. At least that's what you would think - until other people asked him to clarify his view on the Holocaust, which is when the hole DKE was digging began to get deep. Very deep and very frightening.
]]>This is going to be one of the wierder weeks at the ADC, as you may have noticed by the tasteless artwork being showcased on the front door. The irony is that the artwork produced by the ADC is no more tasteless than the ADC's best pal and buddy - David K Every. If the name escapes you, then you've probably missed out on his cyber-intellegenica rag Mackido.com where over a year ago his staff writers believed the ADC on a spam-mission for attention by a mysterious writer named "mgabrys". Well Montgomery Gabrys, sent a terse clarifier that was dismissed outright, and Mackido grew to such heights as to get into a pissing contest with ZDnet and it's real-world application tests with Celeron processors and the snail-free G3 (which lost - causing no small amount of smoke to blow out of DKE's tiny ears). A year later, David K, would find his ass being dismissed from his previous employer of 2 months which was "doing really neat things". The reason for this turn of events is unclear, but his plea for economic assistance is right on the front door of his site - just below the advertising banner that already provides a nice sell-out feel to his magnum opus. I could go on this sequence of events and wonder out loud whether his views on platform bias were to blame (curiously for me - they're an asset), since it was within a mere 3 days that he appeared on the ADC BBBS that he began to draw a parallel between Mac user's and their treatment in the IT world - and, I'm not kidding - the murder of 6+ million Jews in the Nazi Holocaust. He was invited by another writer of Mac prose, Louis G., who has provided many decent and politely worded arguments to the table and has basically kept Wintel enthusiasts on their toes. Louis isn't the only Mac advocate that can hold his zeal in check and provide a great platform for banter - but he's probably one of the most well liked. DKE on the other hand, went right for the jugular. Insulting members, dismissing arguments outright as "the great brainwashed", getting into childish name calling - the works. Mind you - only because this guy had a site, and a collection of writing to his credit was he allowed in. But rather than forward his cause by appealing to the bright spots in the Mac experience, he decided that - from the get-go - everyone else was wrong, no one else was right, and anyone who couldn't make a connection between the genocide of people, and the stumbles of Apple to sell a lump of plastic, was of a lower class of people. These are harsh accusations to be sure - but unlike Mackido - the ADC thrives on providing a peek into the bottemless well of nutty behavior that is the MacJihad and Apple computers through links, and exerpts. You'll find them both here because, quite frankly, I can't make up stuff this sick and twisted. Join us will you? Into the dellusions, the warped sensibilities, and the outright tivialization of the lives of millions of victims who didn't have a choice on the attrocities that befell them in favor of evangelizing a lump of plastic and silicon. Again, if you find fault in his perspectives on life and reality, by all means let him know. After all, complaining to me that this is sick and twisted isn't going to help, because I didn't write such idiocy. I'm just passing it along to you, shrink wrapped and santized for your protection.
]]>The dispute is part of a nearly 20-year legal battle between the iconoclastic computer company and the record production company founded by John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr in 1968. The payment is part of a settlement reached in 1990 after Apple Corps claimed Apple Computer had breached an earlier agreement to stay out of the music business.
What's interresting here is that this mess was supposed to have been cleared up back when Scully was in charge, and was handing out money to Coke and McDonald's for (I'm not making this up) "Classic" and "Mac". While those were highly defensive moves - it seems that he forgot about the mess of a trademark that existed with the name of the company. Perhaps he figured it would collapse in time, or that the Beatles wouldn't get together again and talk about it. Surprise! The Beatles had a studio re-union for a couple of hit singles, sold a bunch of crap out of their catalogues, sold videos and CD's from their outtakes, and wanted more. Pitty they didn't wrap this up 20 years ago, because Apple Corp isn't puny anymore. I don't know how much longer Apple can hold this one off - but looks like the next 100 million dollar squeeker of a quarter will be off 25 million.
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